{"id":1566,"date":"2024-02-22T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-02-22T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/?p=1566"},"modified":"2024-09-22T11:53:31","modified_gmt":"2024-09-22T15:53:31","slug":"takes-on-trump-v-anderson-oral-argument-2-the-significance-of-term-limits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/2024\/02\/22\/takes-on-trump-v-anderson-oral-argument-2-the-significance-of-term-limits\/","title":{"rendered":"Takes on Trump v. Anderson Oral Argument 2: The Significance of Term Limits"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This is another post about a small part of the U.S. Supreme Court oral argument (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/oral_arguments\/argument_transcripts\/2023\/23-719_feah.pdf\">transcript<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/oral_arguments\/audio\/2023\/23-719\">audio<\/a>) in\u00a0<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/search.aspx?filename=\/docket\/docketfiles\/html\/public\/23-719.html\">Trump v. Anderson<\/a><\/em>. As part of Trump attorney Jonathan Mitchell&#8217;s presentation, he asserted that by banning Trump from the ballot the State of Colorado was effectively adding to the constitutional qualifications for the presidency, which a state cannot do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In making this argument Mitchell was relying upon <em>U.S. Term Limits, Inc., v.\u00a0Thornton<\/em>, 514\u00a0U.S. 779, 115 S. Ct. 1842; 131\u00a0L. Ed. 2d\u00a0881 (1995), which invalidated an Arkansas constitutional provision denying ballot access to three-term representatives and two-term senators.<sup data-fn=\"d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5\" class=\"fn\"><a href=\"#d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5\" id=\"d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5-link\">1<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0 Mitchell says that <em>U.S. Term Limits<\/em> &#8220;only prohibits the states from adding additional qualifications or altering the Constitution&#8217;s qualifications for federal office. It does not purport to restrain Congress.&#8221;<sup data-fn=\"86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac\" class=\"fn\"><a href=\"#86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac\" id=\"86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac-link\">2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>True, but the Court&#8217;s opinion in <em>U.S. Term Limits<\/em> relied heavily upon <em>Powell\u00a0<\/em>v.\u00a0<em>McCormack,\u00a0<\/em>395 U. S. 486, 89 S. Ct. 1944, 23 L. Ed. 2d 491 (1969), in which the Court decided that &#8220;the power granted to each House in Art. I, \u00a7 5, cl. 1, to judge the &#8216;Qualifications of its own Members&#8217; [does not] include[] the power to impose qualifications other than those set forth in the text of the Constitution.&#8221; <em>U.S. Term Limits, Inc.<\/em>, 514\u00a0U.S. at 788.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My reading of the Constitution&#8217;s provisions establishing qualifications for members of Congress and the President is that neither Congress nor the States can add to or subtract from the qualifications.<sup data-fn=\"9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062\" class=\"fn\"><a href=\"#9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062\" id=\"9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062-link\">3<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If that is correct, then what do we make of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/uscode\/text\/18\/2383\">18 U.S. Code \u00a7 2383<\/a> (mentioned about ten times during the argument), which makes insurrection a federal crime, specifically the end of the penalty provision which directs that an insurrectionist &#8220;shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\" style=\"line-height:0\">Jay Bohn<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\" style=\"line-height:0\">February 22, 2024<\/p>\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-footnotes\"><li id=\"d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5\"><em>U.S. Term Limits<\/em> was a 5-4 decision. The only current justice who was on the Court at the time was Justice Thomas, who wrote a dissent. <a href=\"#d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5-link\" aria-label=\"Jump to footnote reference 1\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/li><li id=\"86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac\">Whether Congress has that power or not is irrelevant to Mitchell&#8217;s argument. <a href=\"#86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac-link\" aria-label=\"Jump to footnote reference 2\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/li><li id=\"9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062\">The sole exception to that rule is Congress&#8217; explicit power under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to remove a disqualification under that section. <a href=\"#9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062-link\" aria-label=\"Jump to footnote reference 3\">\u21a9\ufe0e<\/a><\/li><\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is another post about a small part of the U.S. Supreme Court oral argument (transcript\u00a0|\u00a0audio) in\u00a0Trump v. Anderson. As part of Trump attorney Jonathan Mitchell&#8217;s presentation, he asserted that by banning Trump from the ballot the State of Colorado was effectively adding to the constitutional qualifications for the presidency, which a state cannot do. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/2024\/02\/22\/takes-on-trump-v-anderson-oral-argument-2-the-significance-of-term-limits\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Takes on Trump v. Anderson Oral Argument 2: The Significance of Term Limits&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"[{\"content\":\"<em>U.S. Term Limits<\/em> was a 5-4 decision. The only current justice who was on the Court at the time was Justice Thomas, who wrote a dissent.\",\"id\":\"d6d8aefb-8e6d-49aa-85f9-870a44350fd5\"},{\"content\":\"Whether Congress has that power or not is irrelevant to Mitchell's argument.\",\"id\":\"86faf990-5d89-4c8f-ad80-41421bc987ac\"},{\"content\":\"The sole exception to that rule is Congress' explicit power under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to remove a disqualification under that section.\",\"id\":\"9cd65cb3-76be-4564-96cf-05a927977062\"}]"},"categories":[4,3,10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1566","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-government","category-judicial-decisions","category-law"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1566","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1566"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1566\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1666,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1566\/revisions\/1666"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1566"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1566"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bohn.org\/wpmocha\/peanutgallery\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1566"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}